Thursday, September 29, 2005

The part-time job that eats your soul

I'm still getting a lot of comments on Quixtar (the cult formerly known as Amway). If Quixtar's such a solid business opportunity, as its proponents insist, why are so many people so deeply upset to see their loved ones involved in it? Why is it causing such anxiety and confusion? I'll say it again - Avon and Tupperware (etc.) don't do this! Here's a painfully familiar comment from Anon:

A friend of mine and her husband are deeply involved in this terrible "business"...they have no lives now, they get no sleep, they miss days at their real jobs constantly...I'm waiting for one or both of them to be fired and then they'll be up a creek for sure...They miss important events like weddings and birthdays, family outings, etc, in favor of meetings and Quixtar seminars...The have been completely brainwashed...The Quixtar higher ups, so to speak, have told these poor saps not to watch tv, listen to the radio, etc to avoid anything negative getting into their heads...It is completely terrible...My friends have been involved for just over a year now and it was just revealed to me they get a 400 dollar check every month...Well, they put out 1000 dollars a month to start with and then pay all sorts of fees in addition for tapes, cds, admission to so called motivational speaker's seminars, gas and hotel costs and they're also told to leave obnoxiously large tips are these restaurants where they have these "night owls" meetings to discuss the business...They are constantly broke, constantly needing to recruit new people since the people they get never stick around once they've seen the light...

11 comments:

greatwhitebear said...

unfortunately, these are the people who own half of southwest Michigan. And employ most of the city of Grand Rapids. i suppose GR prospers at the expense of a lot of unsuspecing folks!

S.M. Elliott said...

At least it's good for something.

Anonymous said...

"1000 dollars to start with"? It does not cost $1000. $40 for your official business license and maybe around $100 for actaul real life products that you can use that you'd buy anyways from a store. You get a bonus back on what you spend and more when you tell other people about it and they drive volume through the internet. I am friends with people who have been in the business 6 months and less who are making anywhere from $500-1000 a month and yes, they are doing this part time. I don't see what the problem is if: 1. The business is totally legal, 2. People are keeping the negative propaganda out of their lives, 3. They are staying around good people who aren't negative and bring them down. Maybe I'm just part of a really good team because I've never heard such craziness before, except from people who either don't understand the business, or who didn't follow the MODEL and now are mad because it didn't work for them THEIR way.

S.M. Elliott said...

Mm hm. Well, Anon is right about the official start-up cost. It's around $250 Canadian. But that doesn't include the tapes, Book of the Month, black suit with a red tie, etc. You could easily spend $1000.

tshsmom said...

Here we go again!
It's not a cult; no way! You just have to stay with the "good" people and away from the "negative" people. Isn't isolation one of the red flags of a cult?

Anonymous said...

Try running a restaurant and see how much free time you have. Seriously, Q is just a business. It costs money to be in business. If you work it, it works, like most businesses. It often takes 2-5 years to be profitable in any business. The problem is that so many people who get into this business think it's not a real business, since you can get an IBO# for under $100. So they don't think that investment, commitment, and a learning curve are part of the equation. They are. Is it worth it? Is it worth it to you, that's the question.

The Zombieslayer said...

Avon and Tupperware are both cool. At least they make good products, and I made some money on Tupperware stock.

Amway and now Quixtar on the other hand turn people into zombies. A former friend of mine tried to get me into Quixtar. I still have one of his stupid books but I fear returning it because I'll have to talk to him.

I went to one Quixtar meeting and it was a like a really bad nightmare.

Anonymous said...

A much easier way to make money on products "you would buy anyway" is to sign up for ebates!!!

ebates.com :)

S.M. Elliott said...

You are an ehole.

@ロウ 。LOW@ said...

Amway is still, Amway, here in Malaysia. I've always thought that it's part
of evolution process(or whatever) in our so-called developing country - - so this is a pretty interesting post for me!
I wish my friends who's in this business "good luck" , just that it's not my piece of cake :)

Anonymous said...

http://www.thisbiznow.com/quixtar/documents/18606_ByNumbers_fin.pdf

LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 2!!! The average IBO had a gross income of $115 a month! NOT INCLUDING MISC. EXPENSES like gas for all those drives tons of miles away to "show the plan" etc.

I think one of the first phases of Quixtar's mind control process is to completely ERADICATE the quixbot's rudimentary math and business skills
so they can't see that they aren't making a profit! And it is amazing how they don't understand the difference between GROSS and NET income!!